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November 23, 2004, at 01:31 PM by 81.86.155.28
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Please move this somewhere sensible. Found a link to Open Source on an EU project conference http://www.l3s.de/prolearn_tws2004/programme.html scroll down to 'promotion and funding opportunities', (presumably open source is a free resource....) 4:50 PM Open Source based Technology Enhanced Learning for Companies and Educational Institutions Philipp Hübner, IHK Hannover, Germany Click to another page, scroll down 'access the resource', wait for the window to open, then the PDF. Well worth finding.

Will Pollard will.pollard@gmail.com

October 13, 2004, at 03:31 PM by Adrian
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Not sure what a sandbox is for but I would like to add some more information about PDF and print.

Adobe are well aware that PDF has to remain an open standard to get support from governmment etc. There is now an ISO standard on PDF-X for print workflows. Many commercial suppliers with an alternative to Adobe.

At Seybold Amsterdam there was a lot of support for SVG - Scalable Vector Graphics. Adobe and Macromedia etc. are on the committees but the standard is not defined as a vendor decides on a new release.

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/

Based on XML, SVG has a lot of advantages on the web. For print there are some problems in controlling exact appearance so I think PDF is still better. However there is work on ways to create PDF from SVG

link direct to a PDF presentation http://www.acrobat-services.co.uk/auf/PD03_j_maerki.pdf

The general opinion earlier this year seemed to be that the Apache version was not as good as the ones you have to pay for, but then the version number implied a fairly low claim.

more stuff http://www.acrobat-services.co.uk/auf/ The Acrobat User Forum includes some commercial discussion far away from open source, but you can take what you like from it.

There will be a Seybold event in Amsterdam next June. Assuming there is another Penguin Day in London or somewhere close to Amsterdam or somewhere in Europe, I suggest there be some contact between the various discussions. This could be an exchange of links to material or in actual space. This is a vague suggestion but I have recently concluded that vagueness contributes to the achievement of learning aims. More on this if provoked by other comment...

http://www.radiovague.com by the way

Will Pollard will.pollard@gmail.com


update

now found a link re: SVG, Macromedia and phones http://oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/5212

seems a similar debate to Adobe and PDF
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(I've taken the liberty of rescuing the following from the Sandbox -AnthonyR)

Not sure what a sandbox is for but I would like to add some more information about PDF and print.

Adobe are well aware that PDF has to remain an open standard to get support from governmment etc. There is now an ISO standard on PDF-X for print workflows. Many commercial suppliers with an alternative to Adobe.

At Seybold Amsterdam there was a lot of support for SVG - Scalable Vector Graphics. Adobe and Macromedia etc. are on the committees but the standard is not defined as a vendor decides on a new release.

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/

Based on XML, SVG has a lot of advantages on the web. For print there are some problems in controlling exact appearance so I think PDF is still better. However there is work on ways to create PDF from SVG

link direct to a PDF presentation http://www.acrobat-services.co.uk/auf/PD03_j_maerki.pdf

The general opinion earlier this year seemed to be that the Apache version was not as good as the ones you have to pay for, but then the version number implied a fairly low claim.

more stuff http://www.acrobat-services.co.uk/auf/ The Acrobat User Forum includes some commercial discussion far away from open source, but you can take what you like from it.

There will be a Seybold event in Amsterdam next June. Assuming there is another Penguin Day in London or somewhere close to Amsterdam or somewhere in Europe, I suggest there be some contact between the various discussions. This could be an exchange of links to material or in actual space. This is a vague suggestion but I have recently concluded that vagueness contributes to the achievement of learning aims. More on this if provoked by other comment...

http://www.radiovague.com by the way

Will Pollard will.pollard@gmail.com


update

now found a link re: SVG, Macromedia and phones http://oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/5212

seems a similar debate to Adobe and PDF
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  • Q: "Open Source" = Linux, right?
  • I've heard that there are different distributions of Linux:
    • Q: why are there more than one?
    • Q: how do I choose which one is right for what I want to do?
    • Q: what are the strengths of the different distributions?
  • Q: Open Source = no upfront cost, right?
  • Q: I'm not a geek and I don't drink beer, so what is "free as in beer" all about?
  • Q: I thought you didn't have to pay licence fees with Open Source?
  • Q: So how would I get an Open Source solution supported?
  • Q: What are the advantages/drawbacks of an Open Source Solution?
  • Q: OK, I get the Source Code, so what - I've never needed it before...
  • Q: Where can OSS be deployed other than on servers?
  • Q: What level are OSS desktops at?
  • Q: Jargon: I've heard the words "KDE", "GNOME", "FreeBSD" - what are they?
  • Q: Have there been Total Cost of Ownership comparisions between OSS-equivalent solutions to proprietary software?
  • Q: What's the argument around a good cultural match between OSS and the Voluntary & Community Sector?
  • Q: Can you mix OSS & Windows on the same network?
  • Q: Is OSS suitable for small/medium/large organisations? (delete as appropriate)
  • Q: What are the issues in migrating to an OSS platform?
  • Q: Do I need to be "Open" (i.e. buy into the whole Open Source Philosophy/Ethos) in order to implement OSS solutions?
  • Q: Can I use open source on macs and pcs and exchange information between them?
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    ** Q: what are the strengths of the different distributions?
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    * Q: Where can OSS be deployed other than on servers?
    * Q: What level are OSS desktops at?
    * Q: Have there been Total Cost of Ownership comparisions between OSS-equivalent solutions to proprietary software?
    * Q: What's the argument around a good cultural match between OSS and the Voluntary & Community Sector?
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    * Q: Is OSS suitable for small/medium/large organisations? (delete as appropriate)
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  • I've heard that there are different distributions of Linux:
    • Q: why are there more than one?
    • Q: how do I choose which one is right for what I want to do?
    • Q: what are the strengths of the different distributions?
  • Q: Open Source = no upfront cost, right?
  • Q: I'm not a geek and I don't drink beer, so what is "free as in beer" all about?
  • Q: I thought you didn't have to pay licence fees with Open Source?
  • Q: So how would I get an Open Source solution supported?
  • Q: What are the advantages/drawbacks of an Open Source Solution?
  • Q: OK, I get the Source Code, so what - I've never needed it before...
  • Q: Where can OSS be deployed other than on servers?
  • Q: What level are OSS desktops at?
  • Q: Have there been Total Cost of Ownership comparisions between OSS-equivalent solutions to proprietary software?
  • Q: What's the argument around a good cultural match between OSS and the Voluntary & Community Sector?
  • Q: Can you mix OSS & Windows on the same network?
  • Q: Is OSS suitable for small/medium/large organisations? (delete as appropriate)
  • Q: What are the issues in migrating to an OSS platform?
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** Q: why are there more than one?
** Q: how do I choose which one is right for what I want to do?
** Q: what are the strengths of the different distributions?
* Q: Open Source = no upfront cost, right?
* Q: I'm not a geek and I don't drink beer, so what is "free as in beer" all about?
* Q: I thought you didn't have to pay licence fees with Open Source?
* Q: So how would I get an Open Source solution supported?
* Q: What are the advantages/drawbacks of an Open Source Solution?
* Q: OK, I get the Source Code, so what - I've never needed it before...
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* Q: What level are OSS desktops at?
* Q: Have there been Total Cost of Ownership comparisions between OSS-equivalent solutions to proprietary software?
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* Q: What are the issues in migrating to an OSS platform?
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    * I've heard that there are different distributions of Linux:
    ** Q: why are there more than one?
    ** Q: how do I choose which one is right for what I want to do?
    ** Q: what are the strengths of the different distributions?
    * Q: Open Source = no upfront cost, right?
    * Q: I'm not a geek and I don't drink beer, so what is "free as in beer" all about?
    * Q: I thought you didn't have to pay licence fees with Open Source?
    * Q: So how would I get an Open Source solution supported?
    * Q: What are the advantages/drawbacks of an Open Source Solution?
    * Q: OK, I get the Source Code, so what - I've never needed it before...
    * Q: Where can OSS be deployed other than on servers?
    * Q: What level are OSS desktops at?
    * Q: Have there been Total Cost of Ownership comparisions between OSS-equivalent solutions to proprietary software?
    * Q: What's the argument around a good cultural match between OSS and the Voluntary & Community Sector?
    * Q: Can you mix OSS & Windows on the same network?
    * Q: Is OSS suitable for small/medium/large organisations? (delete as appropriate)
    * Q: What are the issues in migrating to an OSS platform?
    * Q: Do I need to be "Open" (i.e. buy into the whole Open Source Philosophy/Ethos) in order to implement OSS solutions?
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** Q: why are there more than one?
** Q: how do I choose which one is right for what I want to do?
** Q: what are the strengths of the different distributions?
* Q: Open Source = no upfront cost, right?
* Q: I'm not a geek and I don't drink beer, so what is "free as in beer" all about?''\\
August 11, 2004, at 12:32 AM by Adrian
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  • "Open Source" = Linux, right?
  • I've heard that there are different distributions of Linux - why are there more than one?
  • Open Source = no upfront cost, right?
  • I'm not a geek and I don't drink beer, so what is "free as in beer" all about?
  • I thought you didn't have to pay licence fees with Open Source?
  • So how would I get an Open Source solution supported?
  • What are the advantages/drawbacks of an Open Source Solution?
  • OK, so I get the Source Code, so what - I've never needed it before...
  • Where can OSS be deployed other than on servers?
  • What level are OSS desktops at?
  • Have there been Total Cost of Ownership comparisions between OSS-equivalent solutions to proprietary software?
  • What's the argument around a good cultural match between OSS and the Voluntary & Community Sector?
  • Can you mix OSS & Windows on the same network?
  • Is OSS suitable for small/medium/large organisations? (delete as appropriate)
  • What are the issues in migrating to an OSS platform?
  • Do I need to be "Open" (i.e. buy into the whole Open Source Philosophy/Ethos) in order to implement OSS solutions?
to:
* Q: "Open Source" = Linux, right? ''* I've heard that there are different distributions of Linux: ** Q: why are there more than one? ** Q: how do I choose which one is right for what I want to do? ** Q: what are the strengths of the different distributions? * Q: Open Source = no upfront cost, right? * Q: I'm not a geek and I don't drink beer, so what is "free as in beer" all about? * Q: I thought you didn't have to pay licence fees with Open Source? * Q: So how would I get an Open Source solution supported? * Q: What are the advantages/drawbacks of an Open Source Solution? * Q: OK, I get the Source Code, so what - I've never needed it before... ''* Q: Where can OSS be deployed other than on servers? * Q: What level are OSS desktops at? * Q: Have there been Total Cost of Ownership comparisions between OSS-equivalent solutions to proprietary software? * Q: What's the argument around a good cultural match between OSS and the Voluntary & Community Sector? * Q: Can you mix OSS & Windows on the same network? * Q: Is OSS suitable for small/medium/large organisations? (delete as appropriate) * Q: What are the issues in migrating to an OSS platform? * Q: Do I need to be "Open" (i.e. buy into the whole Open Source Philosophy/Ethos) in order to implement OSS solutions?
August 10, 2004, at 04:24 PM by Adrian
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  • Do I need to be "Open" (i.e. buy into the whole Open Source Philosophy/Ethos) in order to implement OSS solutions?
August 09, 2004, at 11:38 PM by Adrian
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  • Can you mix OSS & Windows on the same network?
  • Is OSS suitable for small/medium/large organisations? (delete as appropriate)
  • What are the issues in migrating to an OSS platform?
August 08, 2004, at 05:12 PM by Adrian
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We can't guarantee that it will be answered at the event, but this page is provided for listing questions that people may have regardng Open Source or issues surrounding it, in order to promote further thought and discussion:
to:
We can't guarantee that all your queries will be answered at the event, but this page is provided for listing questions that people may have regardng Open Source or issues surrounding it, in order to promote further thought and discussion:
August 08, 2004, at 05:11 PM by Adrian
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August 08, 2004, at 05:09 PM by Adrian
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  • Open SOurce? = free, right?
to:
  • Open Source = no upfront cost, right?
Changed lines 12-17 from:
  • OK, so I get the Source Code, so what - I've never needed it before...
to:
  • OK, so I get the Source Code, so what - I've never needed it before...
  • Where can OSS be deployed other than on servers?
  • What level are OSS desktops at?
  • Have there been Total Cost of Ownership comparisions between OSS-equivalent solutions to proprietary software?
  • What's the argument around a good cultural match between OSS and the Voluntary & Community Sector?

August 08, 2004, at 04:28 PM by Adrian
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Describe FeedBack here.
to:
Got a question regarding Open Source?

We can't guarantee that it will be answered at the event, but this page is provided for listing questions that people may have regardng Open Source or issues surrounding it, in order to promote further thought and discussion:

  • "Open Source" = Linux, right?
  • I've heard that there are different distributions of Linux - why are there more than one?
  • Open SOurce? = free, right?
  • I'm not a geek and I don't drink beer, so what is "free as in beer" all about?
  • I thought you didn't have to pay licence fees with Open Source?
  • So how would I get an Open Source solution supported?
  • What are the advantages/drawbacks of an Open Source Solution?
  • OK, so I get the Source Code, so what - I've never needed it before...
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